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hey guys, hope all is well in the US. Well its time to talk about the novel, so im just going to ask some questions to get us started..
 * //[[image:american-flag.gif width="162" height="90"]] __Pride and Prejudice__ [[image:index.jpg width="146" height="78"]]//**

__Class Sturcture__ Does a class structure exist in the USA/PA? If so how does it correspond to the novel??

__Characters__ How do the characters relate to the class system in both the novel and in the US??

1. I would say it somewhat does, i mean...1st calss=rich, 2nd class=average income, 3rd class=poverty....i mean that is essentially all over the world though. 2. i would say in the same way expect nowadays, even if you are rich, you are not overly respected like you were back then. do u need these questions answered for your class or somthing?

...so i made the table here, i will read alittle bit tonight and fill some in either tomorrow or the next day, but you can start on some people!...you too jess.

ok well i filled in mr.bingley, elizabeth bennet, miss bingley, and mr.darcy..so its your turn caleb or jovanni. =) jess

its caleb...ifinished the rest...jovanni, you owe me bruh hahah

loli got new questions for us to do im gonna post them during the day.. jovanni not a very sensible man and the deficiency of nature had been but little assisted by education or society ||= clergyman who is well off with money || has wealth and social standing... ||= successful noblewoman || has a thing for darcy ||= not successful, however, well connected due to mr.bingley ||
 * =  ||= Societal class of characters ||= Behavior or attitudes of characters ||= Success or not in society of charecters ||
 * = Mr. Wickman ||= middle class ||= polite, yet conspicuous. doesn't speak fondly of Darcy. ||= hunting for fortune, but quite there. ||
 * = Mr. Bingley ||= upper class ||= less intelligent than his good friend Darcy, but much more charming and kinder, which gives him an edge on popularity. Also handsome and good-natured. ||= successful (by inheritance) ||
 * = Elizabeth Bennet ||= middle class ||= respectful but opinionated ||= not successful but well connected n society through family ||
 * = Mr. Darcy ||= upper class ||= insolent, makes a poor impression on strangers and doesn't do well in social situations ||= successful, owns the family estate of Pemberley ||
 * = Mr. Collins ||= upper class ||= snobbish and obsequious
 * = Lady Catherine de Bourgh ||= upper class ||= bossy and snobby, condesending
 * = Miss Bingley ||= upper class ||= polite, yet snobbish conceited

Well im preety much done with the reading of the novel but i wanna see some of your views on questions ( also what is ur assignment, i wanna help u with it so send me what u gotta do and i do my best to help u guys out)

history- just a little on Jane Austen Jane Austen's //Pride and Prejudice// had a long and varied life before it finally saw publication on January 28, 1813. Austen began the book, originally titled //First Impressions//, in 1796. Her father submitted it to a London publisher the following year, but the manuscript was rejected. Austen continued to work on the book, and scholars report that the story remained a favorite with the close circle of friends, relations, and acquaintances she took into her confidence. She probably continued working on //First Impressions// after her family relocated to Bath in 1801 and did not stop revising and rewriting until after the deaths of both her father and a close friend in 1805. After this point Austen seems to have given up writing for almost five years. She had resumed work on the book by 1811, scholars report, and the final product appeared anonymously in London bookstalls early in 1813.

ok 1. do u think that this novel is a better representation of the 18th centry than a history text book? why do u feel this way ? well i think it does give abetter representation of history than a history book itself. i think this why because a history book only gives u dates and the basic information of what happened within that time; where as this novel was written in that time with the person actually being there, so the background information which the novel is compared to a history book. jov....

caleb-ehh, i would rather like to learn from a text book because there is more to the time period than women trying to marry rich men, this story is only a small part of the history...and its boring.

jess--- i think that the book is a good representation of the 18th century because it goes more in depth and in detail to what life was like in those times. i agree with jovanni that a history txt book does only give dates and basic events. i feel that the txt book would only give the main topic of an event and thats it. it wouldnt give any detail as to what happened. the book is based on personal events that actually happened; where as txt books cannot always be as correct as the stories from the people that actually went through the events.

Themes

Love
//Pride and Prejudice// contains one of the most cherished love stories in English literature: the courtship between Darcy and Elizabeth. Elizabeth’s pride makes her misjudge Darcy on the basis of a poor first impression, while Darcy’s prejudice against Elizabeth’s poor social standing blinds him, for a time, to her many virtues. Darcy and Elizabeth’s realization of a mutual and tender love seems to imply that Austen views love as something independent and true. .... jo

Class
The theme of class is related to reputation, in that both reflect the strictly regimented nature of life for the middle and upper classes in Regency England.While the Bennets, who are middle class, may socialize with the upper-class Bingleys and Darcys, they are clearly their social inferiors and are treated as such.Through the Darcy-Elizabeth and Bingley-Jane marriages, Austen shows the power of love and happiness to overcome class boundaries and prejudices...... jo

reputation

The reputation within the class sturcture, thus the reason for why the bingleys and darcy think and act so highly of themselves......jo

What do you guys think about these, ao they help you in any way with ur assignment.. jo

notes ( if u need it ....jo) //Pride and Prejudice//, like most of Jane Austen's works, employs the narrative technique of free indirect speech. A major theme in much of Austen's work is the importance of environment and upbringing on the development of young people's character and morality and in the social standing and wealth are not necessarily advantages in her world. Another theme common to Jane Austen's work is ineffectual parents. In //Pride and Prejudice//, the failure of Mr and Mrs Bennet as parents is blamed for Lydia's lack of moral judgment; Darcy, on the other hand, has been taught to be principled and scrupulously honourable, but is also proud and overbearing.

i found this chart hope it helps .....jo